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3:16 Day Special - WWF Livewire: 10/19/96

3:16 Day Special - WWF Livewire - October 19, 1996

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Speaker A:

Austin. 316 says I just whipped your.

Speaker B:

Don'T go. Stop.

Speaker A:

You sit there and call yourself the Gorilla. Get you. He haul out here like a jackass.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker A:

I said shut up. You can kiss my ass. You yomaya.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker A:

That's the bottom line. Cause Stone Cold.

Speaker B:

Welcome to the Bottom Line wrestling cast the courier of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And this week we're bringing you a special episode. It's 316 day. AV. Happy 316 day.

Speaker C:

Happy 316 day, bro. This is what, our fourth one?

Speaker B:

Fifth one.

Speaker C:

Fifth one. So we did do one the first year.

Speaker B:

Yeah, our first one was a watch along or Dude Love versus Phone Cold from over the Edge in 98. That was our first one. I can't remember all the other ones off the top of my head, but there's been five. And just to think that we've been doing this now for a fifth 316 day is just crazy that it's been over four years now. Yeah, but we got a special one for you. Obviously something a little different. We're going to go back we're going to go back to the beginning, which is fun now for us to years later covered something four and a half years ago. We get to kind of revisit it. We're going to revisit it in a different light, though. So we're going to be talking about 1996 and we're going to zero in on a specific date. And that's October 19, 1996 on a Saturday morning show called Livewire. So we'll be checking out Stone Cold showing up in the studio livewire and raising hell as he did in the fall of 1996. So I'm excited to get into this in just a little bit. We'll do a little recap of 96 and we'll talk a little bit about Livewire and then we'll get into a full review of the episode and even a special guest at the end of the episode. So you want to stick around for the whole episode for our special guest, which we won't give away yet. Maybe I'll slip up at some point now. Yeah, right. No shit. Never mind.

Speaker C:

Just to say it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, our fans would never want to not listen to these guys anyway. All right, anyway, let's get into it. Let's do our little plugs here. Check us out on Twitter. Please follow us there at Bottom Line cast. Follow me Mike Pru at MPRU 83. Follow JV at John Van Damage. John with an H. And thanks guys for always tuning in, listening in every couple of weeks. We've been doing stunning steve lately. Our last one was episode eight of Stunning Steve covering February of 1992. And that's been fun. And we're going to continue that with our next episode here we got our special one. So as I always say, you're listening to this on 316 Day, you should be popping the top and sitting back and enjoying some old Stone Cold Steve Austin with us here for us we can't pop the top at least. Yeah, we're not it's Monday night.

Speaker C:

No, I can't.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so we'll do it on 316 Day. Just know that we will.

Speaker C:

Anyway, it's a Thursday, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's a Thursday. Thursday is fine. Thursday is normal. Not Monday night. All right, anyway, let's get into it. I'm going to give you a brief recap, run through some things that have gone on in Stone Cold's career up to this point in October of 1996. We start off in January where he makes his television debut. Actually, it was recorded in December of 95, but doesn't air until the first week of January 1996, where Austin is brought in as the ringmaster. He's the million dollar champion. Ted DiBiasi's, million Dollar Champion and he makes his debut on the return of the Brother Love Show of all shows, which is just weird when looking back at it. He doesn't do much anything really notable. He's the ringmaster sucks. Everyone knows that. He knows it sucks, but he's going to try to make the best out of it. And they actually had some decent plans for him to be in the Final Four at the Royal Rumble. But that didn't go as planned because he was accidentally eliminated early by the Making A Difference FATU who was all slimy and greased up, and Austin went flying out of the ring way too early. So they had to switch things around there. So not off to a good start, but things start to get better in March through May, where Austin now kind of sheds the ringmaster gimmick. He says, fuck off to this, and he develops the Stone Cold gimmick. You've heard the stories and the documentaries and if you want, go back to us, talk about it on our first episode, how he gets the Stone Cold name. But what's really going on through March Into May is and even beyond that really is his feud with Savio Vega. The Vegas Saga episode Two of The.

Speaker C:

Bottom Line wrestle legendary Vegas Saga.

Speaker B:

Yes, that's one that I've actually gone back and listened to just because we always mentioned Vegas saga. He makes his WrestleMania debut at WrestleMania twelve. He has this match, really good match against Savio Vega. The feud continues throughout April into May. They have the whole debacle at in Your house, Beware of Dog, which leads to Beware of Dog Part Two, where they had some great Caribbean strap matches. And that was kind of a turning point where McMahon really saw Austin was valuable. Like, all right, this guy can go. And at that .1 of the stipulations of Beware of Dog Part Two was that if Austin loses to Savio Vega, then Ted Dibiasi is out. So Ted Dibasi is going to WCW to be a member of the Nwo. What I like about that is Austin admits to losing, like on purpose. I lost on purpose because I want his ass out of here. Nice little twist there.

Speaker C:

Yeah, great twist.

Speaker B:

So that loss doesn't really count because he did it on his own. He wanted to lose it's. Great. Then in the June we know King of the Ring Austin cuts the historic King of the Ring promo, where we get Austin 316 says, I just whipped your ass. And that's the bottom line, because Stone Cold said so. You get all that shit at the King of the Ring. Also, the Stone Cold Stunner debuted as a finisher just before that. And just a reminder, no signs. No Austin 316 signs the night after King of the Ring, by the way. I just want to put that out there for the millionth time here on the Bottom Line wrestling cast. Yeah, no fucking signs. WWE, stop lying. Now. We get to that final stretch. What's that?

Speaker C:

Yes, please stop lying.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they'll never do that. So we now go from July through October. It's final stretch that brings us to where we're at today. Austin finally starts to get real opponents at this point. He takes on the Undertaker for the first time on Raw 165 from June 24, 1996. And then again another match against them take on Raw 170, which was July 29, 1996. Austin has another match in your house. He takes on Mock Merrow, who he also defeated in the King of the Ring tournament. So he has a mini feud going on with Mark Merrow in the summer. And then the guy that just won the King of the Ring, he doesn't even have a pay per view match. He doesn't have a summer slam match like on the pay per view itself. He's on the free for all against at this time, shitty ass Yokozuna. And Yokozuna goes for a bunsai drop and breaks the ropes and falls backwards. And then Austin just rolls them up for the win. What a way to utilize the King of the Ring after getting hot due to July. They should have just put him in the IC title picture right away. But he does go into the title picture. He's part of the tournament for the IC title, and he doesn't win. Actually, Mark Merrow does. For the amount of money they were paying, Mark Merrow probably made sense to put the title on him because he was making I don't know the number exactly, but he was making a shit ton more than what Austin and Mick Foley were brought in for. Yeah, they were kind of bitter at Mock Merrow early on because of it, but eventually they saw Mark Merrow as a good person, and I was like, Fuck it.

Speaker C:

Yeah, you ate on somebody for making more money than you right now.

Speaker B:

It's easy for Austin later to say, oh, yeah, it was all right because he ended up making what he made. Maybe that was some revisionist history on Austin's part. No reason for me to be pissed. I'm fucking a millionaire. And then same thing with McFolley. McFolley would go on to make way more money than Mark Merrill too. Anyway, Austin begins to bitch and call out Brett Hart at this time. Brett Hart's been gone since WrestleMania twelve. So Austin just putting himself on the big stage with Brett Hart coming back. And this is going to lead into Austin's appearance on Livewire. And what's Livewire? Livewire was a Saturday morning show. Like I said at the top, it's in that 10:00 a.m. Eastern Standard Time slot. It's on USA Network. Some people seem to think that this was a short lived show. I was reading some comments. People say, oh, that was a short lived show. Not really. Show went from 1996 all the way until 2001. What?

Speaker C:

I would have never guessed that. I would have lost that multiple choice even. Yeah, I would have not picked 2001 unless the other answers were like 2002, 2003. The other options were later.

Speaker B:

I think what people get confused with is that the show Livewire still existed, but it didn't exist in its original format where they're taking phone calls and all that. They eventually stopped doing that because so many of the calls were just fucking bullshit. It was like a waste of time on a live TV to take some of those phone calls.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we'll have one later. I was like, wow, shocked. Yeah, I'm like, it really must have been Live.

Speaker B:

It is funny to see Todd kind of getting pissed too, because he's always like the happy go lucky guy and he's like, hey, hurry up, hurry up, we got to move on. Get to your point. So anyway, Livewire replaced WWF Mania, which was a recap show. And this is essentially what Livewire is as well. It's a recap show of what happened on Raw Superstars and then with the fan interaction piece here, it premiered on September 21, 1996. So what we're seeing is just a few weeks after the start of it. So the show is fresh in its original format at this point. This is a totally ninety S show if this brings you back. I don't know if you felt the same way, JV, but I feel like when I was watching this, I was back at my house in the 90s watching this.

Speaker C:

Oh no, I hear you.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it hits you, the nostalgia. So, like I said, fans sending emails, even faxes still at this time, traditional phone calls. All that is going on here. And as I said, the show ran from September 96 to August 2001. And Todd pengill and Sonny were the original host. Eventually Michael Cole would take over. Then Jonathan coachman, and then Marissa Mazola, which is Shane McVan's wife. She was one of the last hosts of the show. With that said, little brief history there. We now get into our review of Livewire. This episode is actually available on YouTube currently, so you could search for it. It's not the same exact version that we watched but it's pretty much the same and the quality is decent enough. We can watch it on YouTube stuff.

Speaker C:

Though, which are cool.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we got some commercials. All right, so this is episode five, WWF livewire from October 19. All right, so just going to break through segment through segment. I'll kick things off and Davy and I will go kind of back and forth like we usually do. All right. So the program kicks off with the warning screen as the following program contains action of a graphic nature. Viewer discretion is advised. Viewer discretion is advised at 10:00 a.m.. On a Saturday morning.

Speaker C:

I think there's a problem there because Sunny's on.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Viewer discretion is advised. Be careful. We don't want your kids wacking off. 10:00 A.m. In the morning in the living room.

Speaker C:

The female they want to see the most on our show is on Saturday mornings.

Speaker B:

Now that's a good way to wake up on a Saturday morning. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Wish I Knew was more like I don't know, I never used to watch livewire. Kind of wish I was up to seeing Sonny.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's the place where you could catch her for a full length episode. Anyway, we get the WWF signature at the time. This is the stormy thunder and lightning one. The black and silver. You get the for over 50 years, the revolutionary force in sports entertainment. So the video package opens up and it highlights Stone Cold, Steve Austin easy app. And he said, I'm serving notice to every one of the WWF superstars. I don't care who they are, they're all on the list. And that's Stone Cold's list and I'm fixing to start running through all of them. Obviously we recognize that from the King of the Ring speech. So we get clips of Austin stunning and beating people up like Jake Robert, Savio Vega. And that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so we get the livewire opening and it begins with sounds of the dialing up on the internet. The people pop boom boom, booty, all that shit. Very accurate. Yeah, pretty much. And it's mixed with like one liners from Brett Hart, the best rose. Sean Michaels dancing gold dust, doing his little grabbing his nipples and rubbing his nipples. Whatever he does, remember the name. And then you get Sonny, Undertaker, Stone Cold and nice to see her. Brian Pillman is at the very end of the opening. So we go live now to WWF studio which is on Hamilton Street in Stanford, Connecticut. This is not Titan Towers. This is a separate TV studio that they have not too far away from Titan Towers. And we get the numbers at the bottom of the screen. Toll free number 1888. WWF fax one. Then we get the email. This is funny. It's [email protected]. No e livewire [email protected]. Now, the reason for it, I don't know if you remember JV or some of your listeners maybe not even familiar with AOL at the time, in 1996. But this service to create your screen name, which would also create your email address, was limited to ten characters. They could only use ten characters. So in this case, they had to use what they had here. They couldn't put the e. They figured, all right, this has got to be ten characters, we can get rid of the e and people will get what it is. So they had to get rid of the e. And also because of their deal with AOL, all of their email addresses and names for all their different media that they were using on AOL, had to begin with WWF. So they were the only ones I couldn't create a screen name. WWF fan 316 Nobody else was allowed to have WWF as the first three letters other than them. So that took up a few letters right there. Just always having to have WWF in the beginning. So interesting. What's that?

Speaker C:

That was a good little stat.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And they eventually changed it to 16 characters. I forget exactly when, but probably a couple of years later because I remember some longer screen names. Didn't you have some longer than that? Macdaddy JV. Right?

Speaker C:

Macdaddy JV M-A-C-K-D-A-D-D-Y yeah, it was 1111.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And that was when 99. Yeah.

Speaker C:

They were all around the same time.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Mine was Mike P. All. I think that was nine, right? Yeah, that was nine. So I was right under. That was one of my first ones.

Speaker C:

My first one was B. Celtic Four.

Speaker B:

Yes, that was under. So yeah, that makes sense. Originally with this email address, I thought some smart ass had stolen the email address before WWE got it.

Speaker C:

Well, we used my shared my dad's first and then when he's finally like, all right, and I could have got my own before my brother and I did B. Celtic Four, boston Celtics. And number four was Chauncey Bill Ups, because he had just gotten it was like right when he got drafted. So that's what, 1995? No, 97, 96 or 97. Chauncey Billips got drafted because right when they drafted them, that was like right around the same time I was like allowed to get my own I was 13, so I could get my own. It all adds up. Get my own email. And I picked four because of Chauncey bills. And then he was traded like, six months later.

Speaker B:

You weren't stuck with it, but you still used it for a while.

Speaker C:

Yeah, for a while. It was always my main one.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you always had other ones. Yeah. Backyard. JV poppy chulo nine.

Speaker C:

Shag and cheese.

Speaker B:

Shag and cheese. Yeah. I was pretty standard with the Mike P. You all what else did I have?

Speaker C:

Like Ralph something.

Speaker B:

Ralph? Yeah. Ralph MSP.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Ralph Cramden was the reference from the honeymooners. Yeah. That was stupid.

Speaker C:

I thought it was just because I thought no, your middle name was Steven.

Speaker B:

Yeah, MSP.

Speaker C:

MSP. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker B:

I think that's it. Anyway, fun to go down AOL memory lane. Anyway, Todd Pengill is going to kick off this show. We get a look outside. It's rainy and shitty. It looks like they're just in the backyard, like somebody's backyard. But that's how their studio was. It was just in the neighborhood surrounded by houses with fences. We got Sunny alongside Todd, and she's looking nice in her red leather or pleather jacket and skirt combo that she has.

Speaker C:

Smoking.

Speaker B:

Looking hot.

Speaker C:

Smoking.

Speaker B:

Her hair looks great. And to think it's 10:00 on a Saturday morning.

Speaker C:

She looks like she's all done up dog shit now.

Speaker B:

Yes, he does.

Speaker C:

She's still alive, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, at the time. As of right now, no.

Speaker C:

One of a smircher if she's not living.

Speaker B:

No. Anyway, Todd says there's a lot to cover today. They're going to be talking about the upcoming Buried Alive match, which would be the next night in your house. Buried Alive is the following night on Sunday. Todd mentions how Suzanne Miller, the censor at USA Network, better be on our toes this morning because they're going to be joined by Stone Cold Steve Austin. So Todd's expecting Austin to go out there and start dropping some curses. Sonny brings up the Buried Alive match again, which, as I said, will be the following night. Todd mentions that Mr. Perfect is back and there's been a lot of returns. Mr. Perfect is back. Brett Hart is going to be back, and he's going to talk to Vince McMahon. And Vince McMahon is coming back on commentary because Vince McMahon has been out for a little while. So you get all these people coming back and they say Jim Ross is probably not happy about Vince McMahon coming back. So this is also around the time where we're starting to get the heel. Jim Ross assaulted. Jim Ross all pissed off and making light of Vince McMahon and calling him out for what kind of maneuver is that? Vince? What kind of maneuver is that? Busting his balls. Top Hango says the show is about the fans. The fans could call us. You could fax us. You can email us. Then they go to their first fax. I like this question. I don't like how it would be executed later. But the question is about the light heavyweight division. Sonny goes to the first facts and says, you got a really great idea from a couple of people. One guy, Timothy from New Jersey and Jonathan Gray. So these are two fans that are asking about how come there's no light heavyweight division in the WWF. Meanwhile, Todd Pengill has this freaking livewire cam that it's like a handheld cam. And he's so impressed with the technology of it being so small. And they cut to that camera and Todd's just being a complete jackass, moving it around and looking at the facts, like zeroing in on facts. But then all getting up in Sonny's business. I know where that could have went if it wasn't 10:00 A.m.. But Sonny mentions the potential champions. They could have had Sonny at this time, these couple of names that she mentions don't even work for the WWF. So that's what was cool about this show, too, is, oh, it's like being in the inside. Sonny brings up there's Eddie Guerrero, Dean Molinko, Chris Candido. She says, you may know Chris Candido as Skip. Then Sonny says that she would pick Skip to be the light heavyweight champion. That even though we've had our personal differences, like you banging Brett Hot and Shawn Michaels, that's the personal differences. I've known his wrestling for seven years now, and I can't wait to see him back. So Todd cuts and sets up a transition to Last Monday Night Raw and shows us the closing moments of a match between John Michaels and Stone Cold. So, like I said, Stone Cold starting to get some good opponents. This is his first match against John Michaels. All right, so we move on to that match now. And it's not the whole match. This is from Raw 180, October 14, 1996. And they show about five minutes of it. What's interesting about this, this is their first match. But a year and a half later, they're going to have their WrestleMania 14 match. And the announcers, Jr. And Kevin Kelly, they're hyped for this match. They're like, this is the biggest match in the history of Monday Night Raw. Calm down. Obviously, Austin is not a star yet, so I don't know why we're going there with that. But they're hyped. They're overselling it. Hbk and Austin in the match. They exchange hold, and they exchange some pinfall attempts. Hbk goes for a switch in music. At one point, Austin avoids it, rolls out of the ring, and Austin pulls Hbk out of the ring. And they go at it. Austin runs around the ring. He slides back in, drops down to the mat, whips Hbk to the ropes, and then hit Hbk with the stun gun on the top rope. So still using a stun gun at that point, Austin does go for his stunner, which is not perfected yet because he doesn't do the kick to the gut yet. He kind of just grabs the back.

Speaker C:

Doesn'T have the iconic set up no.

Speaker B:

And it looks totally different, really, without it. Hbk pushes off to avoid the stunner, and then we get some interference. So this great match, biggest match in Raw history, just ends with Vader running out, causes a DQ finish. So Vader and Austin both attack Hbk. Savio Vega runs in, and he takes a quick stunner from Stone Cold. And he's out on the outside already. So Austin and Vader continue to beat up Hbk. But HBK's old friend, Psycho Sid runs in to make the save. And then randomly we get fake razor and fake diesel just standing in the aisle. Way like a couple of gibronis just like rubbing their chins, like, what's going on here? And you get fake diesel doing the little fisting punching.

Speaker C:

This in the air?

Speaker B:

No, not like the train, the truck.

Speaker C:

Knocking two fists together.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Punching one hand into the other.

Speaker C:

You bash someone's head in or something.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So back in the ring here, you get Austin whipping Hbk into Sid's back, which causes Sid to be like, hey, what the fuck, man? And then Hbk is looking at him like, I didn't mean it. They're going to look like they're about to fight. So they argue with each other until Austin and Vader run back in, and then they put their differences aside and continue brawling. They brawl until the show goes off the year. So what we had here set up was Austin is supposed to have a match with Savio Vega at Buried Alive, which ends up getting changed and becomes Hunter Hearst Helmsley instead. So it becomes Austin versus Hunterhurst Helmsley in their first match on pay per view at Buried Alive, todd mentions that the winner of the Sid versus Vader match, which is also going to be Buried Alive. And that's why all these people are involved here is because they're hyping up all the matches for the pay per view. The last thing I'll hard sell, but whoever wins Sid versus Vader is going to get a title shot against Sean Michaels at Survivor Series. So we know it goes on to be Sid and Sid actually wins the championship, beat Shawn Michaels. All right. So from there, Todd and Sonny urge people to order the pay per view. And we're going to get that a lot through here. Todd says that the World Series is going to be rained out tonight, tomorrow night and tonight. So there's no excuse not to get the pay per view because there's not going to be a game.

Speaker C:

Thomas baseball.

Speaker B:

Yeah. This alone baseball is still pretty big, though. 1996.

Speaker C:

Oh, it was huge.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So he was kind of right. That Saturday night game, that's when the World Series was supposed to begin. That game got delayed and was moved to Sunday night. So game one was actually on Sunday night instead. So it did air the night of the pay per view. The Braves defeated the Yankees twelve to one in that game. So game two got moved to Monday, which was supposed to be the travel day initially. So now they had to play on the travel day. The Braves shut out the Yankees four nothing with Greg Maddox on them out. So they played games one through five, Sunday through Thursday with no break. And Friday is supposed to be the travel day. So Friday is the travel day to go back to New York for game six. So after starting the Series 20, the Braves end up losing the next four games in the whole series to the Yankees. So they started late, and they started off on a nicer role, but then the Yankees just fucking dominated their ass the rest of the way.

Speaker C:

This is a big part of the Yankees dynasty, though.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Now, this is one of the cases that's rare in World Series history, in that the Braves outscored the Yankees total throughout the Series most of the time. The team that wins the World Series also has more runs. Yes. It's only happened a few times. The Red Sox did it in 2003 as well. They didn't have the most, but they won the World Series.

Speaker C:

We won an four.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I mean, four.

Speaker C:

Then how do you fuck that up?

Speaker B:

I was thinking we can't fake fin. Maybe I meant six.

Speaker C:

No, the first three was when we blew it.

Speaker B:

Yeah. It's four cardinals. One.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right, so now we move on to Austin making his first abrupt appearance. JV is going to cover that, so JV.

Speaker C:

Take it away.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Thanks, Mike. So we're going to have Austin, and he's going to be arriving in the studio, but we do have the audio for you. It's about a minute and a half long, so give it a listen. It's weird, because we haven't done one of these in a while.

Speaker B:

I know. Give it a listen. Yeah.

Speaker C:

And we'll be right back to cover.

Speaker D:

It in your house.

Speaker E:

That's right.

Speaker D:

Still to come here stone cold. Steve Austin Later on the broadcast, we'll talk from him, get his point of view. Also, there's been something I wanted to.

Speaker A:

Talk to you about since you're not waiting until later on the program to get my ass on TV, because you bring me up here. You sent me back here in the green room like some gibroni and show half of a match. Let me tell you what happened. Because you know what happened after I got hit with the flipper clotheslined over the top rope, I took my carcass off the floor, got back in the ring, whipped the hell out of Sean Michaels, and then be psycho Sid's ass. And and you're not going to show that. No, we're going to start stuttering to me, son. And don't you buddy and honey, sorry. Because the bottom line is you're not going to come in here and bring Stone Cold in and treat me like a jerk.

Speaker D:

No, I just want to beat the.

Speaker A:

Hell out of both guys. Let's set the record straight, all right?

Speaker D:

I just wanted to build your appearance throughout the show.

Speaker A:

Got to build Stone Cold, brother.

Speaker D:

Bring you on later.

Speaker E:

Well, there's a camera to tell the people how you feel.

Speaker A:

I think everybody knows how I feel. I've been shortchanged for seven years and I'm fixed to start kicking ass. Just like it said at the beginning of the program. My time has shut up. My time has come. And that's the bottom line. Do whatever you want to do.

Speaker B:

All right?

Speaker D:

We're going to take. A break. Stone cold. Steve Austin is here. We will talk to him and you can too, with your faxes and phone calls as Livewire rolls up.

Speaker C:

All right, so we're backstage at the livewire studio here. There's all sorts of computers and fax machines and shit. Everyone's kind of like broadcasting and working in the background. And we have Todd Pettingale and Sonny, who's looking hot, of course, letting us know what's still to come on this episode, including Stone Cold Steve Austin. But in the background, we can actually hear Stone Cold Steve Austin starting to interrupt. And he's there entering the studio to confront Todd and Sonny. And all you hear in the background now like you just heard is, oh, no, you're not waiting until later on in the program to get my ass on TV. You sit me back there in the green room like some gibroni, which is funny that he used that word.

Speaker B:

Yeah, way before the rock yeah, way before.

Speaker C:

Way before the rock and show half a match, which is true. He's kind of taken shot at the production on how this shit goes, especially if they don't like you, they can build their own narrative behind you.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So Todd tries to address this as a misunderstand. Oh, stokehold. It's a misunderstanding. But he's immediately cut off by a very animated Austin, who continues, well, let me tell you what happened because you know what happened after I got hit with the flipper and he kind of like smacks his forearm like that's what he gave his forearm and clotheslined over the top rope. I took my carcass off the floor, got back in the ring, whipped the hell out of Sean Michaels, then beat psycho Sid's ass. And you're not going to show that, which is true. They probably wouldn't have showed that. If you're not in good graces, you're not going to get the true story told. So a nervous Todd starts stuttering, and then Sonny tries to butt in. Boston is super hot right now, and he doesn't want to hear any of their bullshit. Austin just continues, don't start stuttering to me, son. And don't you butt in, honey, because the bottom line is you're not going to come in here and bring Stone Cold in and treat me like a jerk. I beat the hell out of both guys. Let's set the record straight. So now Todd's like talking and Austin just kind of staring at him and like shaking his head, like mocking Todd as he's speaking, which is fucking hilarious. Like, the video of Austin in these segments is funny because it's like old school Austin. So he's still kind of like figuring out what he wants to be.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he has an earring still.

Speaker C:

Like the mustache.

Speaker B:

Yeah, mustache. Fuzzy goatee combo. Yeah.

Speaker C:

So Todd says he's just trying to build Stone Cold's appearance throughout the show, which makes sense. And Austin interrupts him. You ain't got to build Stone Cold, brother. Everything they say. Austin just takes immediate offense.

Speaker B:

He has an answer for everything.

Speaker C:

Tard starts talking again, and Austin just kind of cuts him off. He's like right. Because he's like, saying factual shit here. So Sonny points out to Austin that there's a camera here and he can tell them how he feels. So he just tells her to shut up. And then he looks the camera and just starts speaking. Everybody knows how I feel. And he lifts his he kind of, like, lifts his hand. And he's like pointing at the camera with his hand. I've been short changed for seven years, and I'm fixing start kicking ass just like I said at the start of the program. So Todd instruments and before you can really get into now Austin just tells him, shut up. So Austin continues on. My time has come. And that's the bottom line. So do whatever you want to do. And then Todd, you realize he can't go anywhere with this. So he just kind of takes us away to a break.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he wants to get the fuck out of there.

Speaker C:

Yeah. So he doesn't want to deal with this hot headed stole cold.

Speaker B:

Steve. All right. So thanks, JV. Todd brings us to the break, which is there's a couple of funny things to cover during the break. We get advertisements for those horrible denim jackets of the time. You had one with Undertaker on the back of these, man, so ugly. Brad Harsh. Definitely trash undertaker. Brat Hart and Sean Michaels, each on their own jacket. And then there was like a logo patch on the front of each guy's logo. And these were 49 99 plus $7 shipping and handling. And man, that's fucking expensive. Considering the time with inflation with the calculator. I looked it up today. One of these jackets would cost $108.67. That's a 91% increase. That's wild. From 96 to now. This is a fucking long time ago. It's 30 what do we have? 20 years? 27 years ago, like that. Yeah, 27 years ago, man. To us, it feels like yesterday because we remember it. And we grew up during that time. But 27 years is a long fucking time. Cost of price is going to change. But, man, it's a lot of money. And also you have to wait fucking four to six weeks for delivery.

Speaker C:

Chris Cheap Pete would say, chris Rock. Goddamn, that's a lot of money.

Speaker B:

All right, then we got a quick little movie trailer. It starts to play and then gets cut off. But it was enough to see and it was the thinner movie trailer. The part of the movie where the guy's getting a blowjob in his car. Then he hits the old lady and she curses him. I curse you.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm your hair used to.

Speaker C:

Get so pissed on.

Speaker B:

Yeah, JV used to do it to me when we were in high school. Obviously at this time, 96 and 97, you come up like a hand motion to my hair. Comb your hair.

Speaker C:

Don'T trigger you den.

Speaker B:

Oh, man, those are the times. All right. So, yeah, that movie sucked. Stephen King book, no less. All right. Anyway, upon return from the break, we get footage of Austin shitting all over Aldo Montoya that's being played. Austin cheap shots. Montoya stuns his ass. Basically, in that match, Austin said, I'm not going to wrestle you. Take the forfeit. And then, although Montoya is trying to be tough games like no way. And then Austin just fucking cheap shots and stuns his ass and walks out. Now we're back in studio and Austin is still in the studio. And the top is going to be Brett Hart. So I'm going to cover this. We do have the audio for you, so take a listen and we'll be right back.

Speaker D:

Well, obviously, stolen Cold, you can see we're going to get to everything that you did here. We just need a little time to get to things. We weren't counting on you being here right away.

Speaker A:

Well, the kid there you just saw on the TV was a sacrificial lamb. He showed up with a jock strap on his face, got dumped on his neck. And they carry him out after that. And that's exactly what's going to happen to anybody else I get in the ring with.

Speaker D:

Well, let's talk about the hitman Brett Hart, because you've made no secret how you feel about the legendary Brett Hart.

Speaker A:

All right? Because he's going to sit there and say, I'm the best there is. I'm the best there was. I'm the best there ever will be. I'm the excellence of execution, man. I got to invent a bunch of dumb slogans to try to convince myself I'm great. I think everybody out there in TV land turns on the TV, sees Stone Cold, and says, damn right he's the best there is.

Speaker D:

Well, let me ask you, Stone Cold, do you think this Monday, live on Raw, bret Hart is going to announce his retirement or do you think he's coming back to the World Wrestling Federation? Will he be a goodwill ambassador? What do you think Bret Hart's going to do?

Speaker A:

Well, if he announces his retirement and he's a very smart man, if he says he's coming back, then I'll retire him. End result. It's going to be if Brett comes back, it's going to be for a very short time. And it might as well be as a goodwill ambassador because he ain't got what it takes when it comes time to getting in the ring with Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Speaker E:

Well, Stone Cold, I hate to interrupt you here, but you seem like you have a lot of anger built up inside concerning Brett Hart. But I haven't heard Bret Hart say one word about you. It seems like you don't even cross his mind.

Speaker A:

Let me just tell you a little inside story. Brett heard me talking on the pay per views. He heard me talking on the TV. He sent me a plane ticket, first class, to fly to Calgary. We went down to the basement, the famous Stu Hard basement, and I whipped his ass for 30 minutes, put the sharpshooter on him for ten minutes. Then Stu came down. Ah, Steve let go of Brett.

Speaker B:

Let.

Speaker A:

So I beat Stu's ass. That's why he don't say nothing about me, because I already got his number. You know, Brett, you know that I'm better than you, but if you want to do it in front of the world, I'd be happy to oblige you, because Stone code is the best there is, and ain't no one here can tell me any different.

Speaker D:

Obviously, we should just point out we can't confirm what you said about Brett.

Speaker A:

You're calling me a liar?

Speaker D:

Not at all. I just want to take a phone call here.

Speaker A:

All right?

Speaker B:

So Todd mentions that they weren't prepared for Austin at this point so early in the show. And Austin's reaction is basically, I don't give a fuck. I'm here. I'm not going to wait all day. I'm getting this shit done. So Austin says that Aldo Montoya was just a sacrificial lamb. He showed up with a jock strap on his face, got dumped on his neck, carried him out after that, which is exactly what's going to happen to everyone I get in the ring with. So Todd turns it to Brett Hart, says, you made no secret about how you feel about the legendary Brett Hart. Austin hops on immediately about how Brett thinks he's the best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be. I'm the excellence of execution, man. I don't got to invent a bunch of dumb slogans to try to convince myself that I'm great. That's a hell of a line, Austin.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that was a great line. That's one of my favorite lines of the whole show that we're covering.

Speaker B:

That was excellent. I don't have to invent a bunch of dumb slogans. So Austin continues with his favorite line. I think everybody out there TV Land. He loves to say TV Land that turns on the TV and sees Stone Cold and says, damn right he's the best there is. Todd asks, do you think this Monday night Raw that Brett is going to announce his retirement or do you think he's going to come back to the World Wrestling Federation? Austin responds that he thinks that if Brett retires, that he's very smart, very smart man for doing so. But if Brett decides to come back, austin will retire him. The end result will be if Brett comes back, it'll be for a very short time because he ain't got what it takes when it comes to getting in the ring with Stone Cold. Steve. Austin. Sonny jumps in. She goes, I hate to interrupt you here. Then Austin nods his head and just says, right. Yeah, you don't mean to bullshit, right? Get to the point, sonny. Basically. Come on. So Sonny mentions how Austin seems to have a lot of hatred towards Brett Hart. But Brett Hart hasn't said anything about Austin. It seems like you don't even cross his mind. And I thought, wow, the ball is on her to say that Austin like Austin is like just calling out somebody that doesn't give a fuck about him. Austin takes offense to that story Austin tells. I have a little story, little inside story to tell you. Austin talks about how Brett sent him down first class ticket to Calgary so that they could meet each other and have a little spawn session in the heart dungeon, which Austin calls the basement. Nice disrespect. Not recognizing the dungeon name. We went into the famous Stuhar basement and I whipped his ass for 30 minutes, put him in a shop shooter for ten minutes. Then Stu came down. And Austin gives a stew. Impersonation. Steve. Let go of Brett. Austin says he went on to beat Stu's ass too. That's why Brett doesn't say anything about me, because I already got his number. Now this story is partially true. Brett did have him over so that they can discuss where they wanted this story to go and whatnot. So Austin kind of went on a shoot here and mentioned what really did happen, but changing the story slightly to keep it in KFAB. It's cool to hear that, brett, I'm better than you. But if you want to do it in front of the world, I'll be happy to oblige you. Because Stone Cold is the best there is. And there ain't no one here that could tell me any different. Todd mentions that they can't confirm what Austin is saying about meeting Brett in Calgary. And Austin is like, what the truth? What, are you calling me a liar, son? I fucking did. Go. I wonder if Vince McMahon was in Todd's ear. Like, hey, you're going to say something that we can't confirm that? Because we can't have people thinking that.

Speaker C:

I was thinking the same thing. Because I know that he's known to do that. Like being people. Someone would have to be in their ears, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I think he was. I think they were afraid that Austin is kind of making up his own storyline here that no one's approved. They were at his house. Something like that. All right, so that wraps up the talk on Brett Hart. But now it's back to the phones. And JV is going to cover some phone calls for us, which are pretty funny.

Speaker C:

Take away JV These are pretty good. So we actually do have the audio here. So we're going to lay out for that. So these are phone calls coming in from fans of the WWF. And they have questions for audience in the Sunny. And Todd Pattingale, I guess, as well. So it's about almost three minutes long. So give it a listen and I'll be right back to run through it.

Speaker D:

What you said about bread. Not at all. I just want to take a phone call here. Eva from Massachusetts, you're on livewire.

Speaker E:

Hi, I have a question for Stone Cold.

Speaker D:

Sure, go ahead.

Speaker E:

Well, first of all, Stone Cold, I really like your style. The no nonsense approach to wrestling. I think you could go far, except for one thing. I mean, what's with the swearing all the time? I think it kind of indicates a lack of creativity, a lack of imagination. And I think it'll hinder you in your future here in the WWF.

Speaker A:

I think if you keep talking to me like that and if you're in person here, I might hinder your life. The bottom line is, I say shut up. I say whatever I want, when I want, how I want. As far as you liking my style, I've been around for seven long years. All of a sudden, someone put the microphone in front of my face and everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon. You're all a bunch of mosquitoes. And from now on, that's what I'll refer to you as, mosquitoes. And you're all trying to get on the arm of Steve Austin and suck the blood out because I'm red hot. You think you're making friends with Steve Austin? All of you can kiss off because I don't need nobody.

Speaker E:

Can I take another call?

Speaker D:

Take another phone call? Nick from Massachusetts. You're on with Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Speaker F:

All right, stone Cold, I'd like to.

Speaker G:

Know why you're so arrogant towards everybody in the WWF.

Speaker F:

And you think you're better than everyone when you've never won a title.

Speaker B:

Also, what's up with that Stone Cold 316 saying I've never won a title?

Speaker A:

Because everybody you've got here with a belt is scared to look me in the eyes and say, yeah, Stone Cold, I'll give you a shot. I whip Merrill's ass every time I got in the ring with him. Now he's intercontinental champion. You answer me that question.

Speaker D:

Well stone cold.

Speaker A:

Sean michael, shut up. Sean Michaels is the WWF champion and he hadn't cared to get in the ring with me, either. Why? Because he's scared.

Speaker D:

I was just going to point out that you did win the king of the ring and obviously proved yourself in that matchup.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker E:

Right. I have an email here from B-I-G-A-L-E-S through Aol.com. They want to know since all the king of the rings, owen Hart won the king of the ring. He received the title shot. Mabel won King of the ring. He received a title shot. Brett Hart won King of the ring. He received the title shot. They want to know where is your title shot?

Speaker A:

Because of all the politics, all the political BS everything that always goes wrong in Stone Cole's career because everybody's afraid of him. Sean Michaels, give me a break. You go out there in your little glitzy glamour outfit, your sparkles and everything else. You know, I don't need none of that garbage, because when the bell rings on, I turn into the human buzzsaw. And if you ever did face me, you can damn well bet I would kick your ass. And I hate to be redundant and keep saying that, but that's just the way it is.

Speaker D:

All right, well, still to come here this week on Livewire More with stone cold Steve Austin, plus what exactly will.

Speaker C:

All right, so first up, we're going to have eva from Massachusetts, our hometown proof, our home state proof.

Speaker B:

Home state. Yeah.

Speaker C:

But before she gets to her question, so she's on the phone here. We got ebay from Massachusetts. You know how that shit goes. I don't know. It depends how old you are. That's not shit anymore. I know what the fuck we're talking about.

Speaker B:

Radio.

Speaker C:

So before we get to her question, she kind of compliments Austin off the bat. So it sounds like this is going to go where you want it to go. She tells Austin she really likes his style and no nonsense approach to wrestling. And she thinks he can go far except for one thing. And she says, what's with the swearing all the time?

Speaker B:

Yikes.

Speaker C:

So you can kind of see Austin. The best part about this stuff is when they can when they you can kind of see how Austin's reaction as these questions are being asked, which is pretty funny.

Speaker B:

Great facials, because I don't know if.

Speaker C:

This stuff was I don't think this was planned. This seems genuinely live. Like some of these don't seem cherry picked at all. So Eva believes that this indicates him swearing indicates a lack of creativity and a lack of imagination. And she thinks it's going to be hard. It's going to hinder him in his future with the WWF. Now, just a side note. At this point, the camera is zooming in on Austin. And as she's wrapping up the question, you can kind of see how pissed Austin is. And it's probably both a little bit of mix of reality and then him also taking that and channeling it into his character, which is pretty cool to see. So Austin responds, hot, I think if you keep talking to me like that and you're in person here, I might hinder your life.

Speaker B:

Jeez.

Speaker C:

Sonny's like reactions to Austin are always funny, too. You could tell she actually thoroughly enjoys Austin and is kind of impressed because he still liked the new guy here, right? So sonny interrupts. She says, oh, she's lucky she's on the phone. Then Austin tells Sonny to shut up. So Austin continues, I say whatever I want, when I want and how I want. As far as you liking my style, I've been around for seven long years. All of a sudden, they put a microphone in front of my face and everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon.

Speaker B:

Awesome.

Speaker C:

And this was cool because that was him speaking from the heart and the truth with that line right there. Also, he's able to kind of maintain his heel persona.

Speaker B:

I was going to say it's kind of like what he said in ecw.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's almost like you're all a bunch of mosquitoes. He says, and from now on, that's what I'll refer to you as. So now at this point, he's kind of like waving his hands around like he's trying to smack mosquitoes out of the way. And he continues says, you're all trying to suck the blood out of me because I'm red hot. Austin then says, they're all trying to make friends with Steve Austin, but they can all kiss off because I don't need anybody. So good shit there. It's fucking really awesome response to.

Speaker B:

Just goes to show like how quick Austin can be because he's taking these live calls and getting out. Gold. There gold nuggets.

Speaker C:

So that wraps up eva next. From there it's either Todd or Sunny. You just heard it. They bring us now we're going to stay in the state of Massachusetts, so we're going to get Nick from Massachusetts. So Nick starts off and he asks Austin why he's so arrogant in the WWF and why he thinks he's better than everybody when he's never won a title. He also wants to know what's up with your 316 saying stone cold jerk. So Austin does have a great immediate response to this jab. The first part about the title, austin says, I haven't won a title because everybody with a belt here is afraid to look me in the eyes and say, yeah, stone cold, I'll give you a shot. Austin then reminds everyone how he whooped Mark Merrow's ass every time he got in the ring with him. But yet now Mark merrows the intercontinental champion. Austin asks, you answer me that question. Then Todd starts to interrupt Austin, and Austin hits him with a shot up. Austin now takes a shot at Sean Michaels being the WWF champion, and he hasn't gotten the ring and Sean Michaels hasn't gotten the ring with Stone Cold because he's scared of him. And then Todd chimes in and reminds everyone that Stone cold did win king of the ring and proved himself in that matchup. So even though he doesn't have any title, he did win king of the ring is kind of a title.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker C:

It's not a belt, but it's like a title. You get the title of king of the ring.

Speaker B:

Yeah. We're still kind of important at this time. It's only been a few years and it's around.

Speaker C:

So the next question we get and this one, I feel like this was an email. I feel like this one was staged. Maybe because it was an email. It wasn't a call. They don't give the guy a name. It's an email from [email protected]. But it is a great email here. So the fan starts off listing off the past winners of King of the Ring, which is kind of odd how it just picks off right where they mentioned King of the Ring. Yeah. The fan lists off the past winners of King of the Ring, owen Hart, Mabel Brett Hart, and how they all receive title shots after winning King of the Ring. And the fan asks Austin, where's your title shot? So Austin immediately goes for the jugular of WWF. And that's the politics. So Austin calls out all the politics and political BS. And everything that goes wrong in Stone Cold's career is because everybody is afraid of him. Austin continues Sean Michaels. Give me a break. You go out there with your glitzy glamour outfit, your stupid sparkles and everything else, austin says, I don't need any of that garbage, because when the bell rings, I turn into a human buzzsaw. And if I ever did face Sean Michaels, austin says he can damn well bet he would kick his ass. And that's the way it is. And that's it. That wraps up that email segment. Not email, phone call, email segment for Austin. Good shit here. He's kind of like right off the cuff coming up with these responses. He's very animated. His fucking eye contact to and from the camera he's aware of, like to make sure that he's including Todd and Sonny. So when they're talking, he's making sure he's throwing shots at them. The way he orchestrates this whole segment is hella impressive.

Speaker B:

He's a pro. Yeah.

Speaker C:

And when you see wrestlers nowadays, there's no awkwardness here. There's no awkward silence. There's no stuttering from Austin. It's just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Like, greatness, greatness at work here.

Speaker B:

Brilliant. All right, so that'll lead now to a break. And then when we come back from the break, austin is still in studio and the topic is going to be Mr. Perfect and savio. Vega. So I'm going to cover that. We get the audio for you. It's about three minutes, so take a listen to the audio and then we'll be right back to go over it.

Speaker A:

Don't you take it with my ass unless you've done it, Austin.

Speaker D:

You're going to put me in a box.

Speaker A:

Wait a second. Better boat up and you're gonna do a bag, because there's no way you think I've ever done since. I tell you what, I've been there already. You want to do a Mr. Perfect getting a road wrestling federation?

Speaker D:

Well, it seems Stone Cold is not afraid to talk about anyone there.

Speaker A:

Why should I be afraid? Kurt Henning, Mr. Perfect, whatever you want to call him, is £260 of cholesterol stuffed in a bargain basement suit. At one time, son, you were a hell of a talent. But if you think for one split second that you could stay in the ring with me for more than five minutes, you're a lot stupider than I thought you were.

Speaker D:

Let's talk about what's going to happen tomorrow night at in your house, buried alive, stone Cold Steve Austin, you'll be taking on Savio Vega. Now let's go back to the last time you guys squared off the Caribbean strap match from Beware of Dog Two. You remember this. Let's listen in at some of these some of the action here that went on. This is just incredible.

Speaker B:

Listen to this.

Speaker A:

Wham. There's 1234 yeah.

Speaker E:

Kind of thing on Saturday morning.

Speaker D:

I mean, obviously it's devastating. What is going to happen this time? Is there a different scenario for you in your mind? Is there a different strategy that you'll employ against Savio Vega this time? How will you attack this man?

Speaker A:

Yeah, like I'm going to sit here and tell you on national television what I'm going to do. They always say that the Undertaker is the phenome of the WWF or Sean Michaels is the most charismatic performer in the WWF. Well, Savio Vega is the cockroach of the WWF. And I'm the exterminator son. I've tried and tried and as much as I do try, you keep coming back. But believe me, you've been a thorn in my side for too long. And after in your house, you won't come back.

Speaker D:

And obviously you feel the same way about the hitman Brett Hart if he were to come back. But I got to believe if Brett does announce that he's coming back live on Raw this week, it'll be for the fans. He'll want to come back for the fans. Obviously, he is well loved all over the world.

Speaker A:

That's the problem with Brett. He always wants to do everything for the fans. That's the thing. He always cares about everybody else. The bottom line is Stone Cold never give a rat's ass about anybody. And that's why I'm at the top right now. I don't need friends. I don't need family. I don't need nobody asking me for my autograph. I know what I am. I'm the best there is. And mark my word, if Bret Hart does come back, I'll kick the hell out of him.

Speaker E:

Those are some harsh words from Stone cold Steve Austin. You know what? I got to believe him.

Speaker D:

You can't say anything about Stone Cold Steve Austin in the squared circle, but I mean, the guy just says whatever he wants.

Speaker E:

Can we have a sensor delay next time he's in the studio, please? Thank you.

Speaker D:

Let's take you back now. Regroup a little bit here.

Speaker B:

All right. So upon return from the break, we get footage of Austin and perfect having an argument at the commentary booth on superstars. So getting to see some tension between the two. So once we get back to the live feed here Austin Mean mugs right into the camera and he looks pissed after seeing the footage of him, Mr. Perfect. So Austin starts yelling that he's not afraid of Mr. Perfect because Mr. Perfect, Kurt Henning, whatever you want to call. Him is just £265 of cholesterol stuffed in a bargain basement suit. Jeez, that's a hell of a fucking line, that one time. Son, you're a hell of a talent. But if you think for one split second that you could stay in the ring with me for more than five minutes, you're a lot stupider than I thought you were. Todd brings up how Austin is set for a matchup with his longtime rival Savio Vega at Tomorrow Night's in Your House Buried Alive pay per view. And we get footage shown of Austin and Savio from their Caribbean strap match back in May I beware of dog two? Austin provides running commentary over the footage. So we get the hair. Wham. There it is. Wham. There's two. So Austin's whipping Savio and Austin is providing that funny wham commentary. And Austin gets asked a dumb question by Todd. So he says, what's going to happen this time? Is there a different scenario for you in your mind? Is there a strategy that you'll employ against Savio Vega this time? How will you attack this match? Austin quickly responds, yeah, like I'm going to sit here and tell you on national TV what I'm going to do.

Speaker C:

I love that.

Speaker B:

Awesome. Realistic, Austin says that The Undertaker is the phenome, HPk is the most charismatic performer. Well, Savio Vega is the cockroach of the WWF and I'm the Exterminator. Son, I've tried and tried as much as I can to keep you coming back. Someone Savio Vega, like, I've stomped you out so many times but you keep coming back. That's why he's a cockroach. So believe me, you've been a thorn in my side for too long. And after in your house, you won't come back. It's going to be done. We're done with this fucking Savio Vegas saga here. You're done after this. And they don't even wait. He's gone. He's not even in the match. Todd brings up Brett again and says that Brett, if Brett comes back to wrestle, it'll be for the fans. Austin says that's Brett's problem. He always wants to do things for the fans. That's the problem with Brett. He always wants to do things for everyone else. The bottom line is phone call never gave rats ass about anybody. That's why I'm on top right now. I don't need friends. I don't need my family. I don't need anybody asking me for my autograph. I know what I am. I'm the best there is. Mark my words. If Brah does come back, I'll kick the hell out of him. Then Austin pushes the camera and walks off the set. Sonny says that Austin had some harsh words to say. Todd says you can't say much about Austin in the squared circle, but he is someone that says whatever he wants. So that's the end of Austin here on Livewire and he's pissed about Brett Hart and he's going to take it out on, at this point, Savio Vega. It'll be triple H the next night, or Hunterhurst Helmsley at that point. And also Mr. Perfect will be involved in that as well because Mr. Perfect and Hunterhurst Helmsley have a little storyline going on at the same time from there. Now we cut to a longer segment where Mr. Perfect interviews Brett Hawke on the wrestle vessel. So this is back in August? Yeah. So they had like a wrestling cruise at one time where you could be on the cruise and meet wrestlers, get autographs and stuff like that.

Speaker C:

Jericho didn't think of it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, of course not. So Todd cuts to the footage of Mr. Perfect interviewing Brett Hart from August about his possible retirement or the return to wrestling. So Brett reflects on losing the Hbk at WrestleMania twelve in the Ironman Match because of the bullshit sudden death round after the draw, which I always hated, brett successfully defended the title in 90 minutes, but no, Gorilla Monsoon came out and said, oh, sudden death. And then he lost and he lost the title to hbk because of that. And I believe the same shit went down at the last AW pay per view where it was a draw at 60 minutes, and then they had sudden death around. Pretty sure that's what I didn't watch the pay per view, but that's what I gathered, so I didn't like it then. And good thing I didn't watch the match because I hated that ending and then AW replicates it. All right, so anyway, four months after WrestleMania, brett is on a cruise ship with Mr. Perfect. Brett says that he's been enjoying his time off and he's no rush to go back to packing suitcases and hopping in rental cars, sleeping in hotels. And I'm thinking when he's saying, this man sounds like a fucking nightmare for me to do all that packing suitcases, getting rental cars all the time, like going through those routines over and over again, fuck that. Brett likes where he is at right now. He likes that he could take his kids to the zoo if he wants. I can take my kids or I can go train. He says that's an easy choice. Now I'm going to take my kids to the zoo. I don't have to train. They show a clip of Brett's daughter Bean, saying that she likes that her father is home spending more time with them instead of with wrestling. So Brahde at this point has got to be thinking like, shit, I need to retire soon. If I do go back, it can't be for long. These kids are growing up. Brett says that he's been going through this transition because he's been living out of a suitcase for twelve years. He's missed a lot. I let strangers become my family. Family become strangers. It's time to go back and change that. I like that line, letting strangers become family rather than your family. Your family became strangers sucks. Brett says that if he decides tomorrow that he's going to go back tomorrow to wrestle. There's going to be four very unhappy kids. So perfect mentions to Brett that based on the reaction of the fans on the cruise, they want Brett back sooner than Brett may want to come back. Brett says people are going to have to live with the decision I make if I decide I don't want to come back. I hope they're just happy with what I accomplished and offered to them in the business. To the wrestling game itself, brett closes by mentioning that if he comes back, he's going to have a shovel. Okay. I don't know what that means. He's going to be in a buried live match. I don't know. So we go back to the studio. We go back to the studio. Todd says how great Brett is as a role model for kids and adults all over the world. Sonny says she knows exactly what Brett means when he says he's going to be shoveling when he comes back on Monday night. Raw. What? Sonny, do you mean he's going to be plowing you? Is that what you mean? I know what he's going to be shoveling. He's going to be shoveling this right here.

Speaker C:

She makes a lot of comments too.

Speaker B:

He does.

Speaker C:

I can find out. Brett Hart.

Speaker B:

Yeah, she's like basically saying I'm banging Brett without saying it. That probably pissed him off. Shut up, you bitch. Sonny's like 24 years old.

Speaker C:

He's pretty adamant he didn't, right?

Speaker B:

I think he's come out and said he did.

Speaker C:

Oh, did he?

Speaker B:

Yeah. Maybe not specifically her, but I think he said he's cheated on his wife. I'd have to look again. Yeah, I think it's out in the clear that he did do something. Anyway, Todd mentions that Austin seems to have taken off, but they're going to take more calls about Brett's return and Brett and Austin after the break. So without Austin, we get some more phone calls and JV is going to cover that. So JV, what do we got now this time for these callers and emails?

Speaker C:

All right, so we got emails and calls coming in about Brett Hart's return. So we're playing the audio for this one, right? I ripped it.

Speaker B:

Oh, you did? Yeah, if you want.

Speaker C:

I realized that you didn't write the audio thing here.

Speaker B:

Yeah, if you have it, might as well just drop.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I did rip it.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker C:

So we're going to lay out the audio here. So it's emails and calls and this is about Brett Hart's return. Not stone cold. Steve austin's. Just not about stone cold Steve Austin. You know what the fuck I mean? Give us a listen. It's about four minutes long and I'll be back to run through it.

Speaker D:

Now let's get back to the hitman, Brett Hart, because the fax machines are going crazy. We're going to take your phone calls. How about an email?

Speaker E:

I got an email. This is from Amy Lee Ray. She says she's from New Jersey and she's not a hit man fan. She says that stone cold Steve Austin will have a field day when Brett Hart steps into the ring with him. I want to know what you think, Todd. And I want to know what the world wrestling Federation fans think about what Amy Lee Ray has to say.

Speaker D:

Well, let's ask Roger from Indiana. Roger, you are on livewire.

Speaker C:

Hey, what's up, Todd?

Speaker D:

Good man. What do you think about Brett the hitman? Hart coming back.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker D:

Your opinion.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker G:

I think he might want to just.

Speaker B:

Consider staying in retirement.

Speaker D:

Really? Why is that?

Speaker G:

Well, there's other guys here now that.

Speaker B:

Are bigger and better to me. I mean, he was good in his time. I give him his props.

Speaker C:

But I think there are other guys.

Speaker B:

Out there now who I don't think.

Speaker G:

He really stands a chance at.

Speaker D:

Let me ask you something. Brett the Hitman heart, the excellence of execution is probably the man who put wrestling on the map.

Speaker B:

Wait, hold on. Let's back up a little bit now.

Speaker D:

Okay, go ahead.

Speaker G:

Let's not forget Hulk Hogan.

Speaker D:

Hulk Hogan. No question. But you want to talk about a guy who's lost an edge.

Speaker E:

You want to talk about a true athlete.

Speaker D:

I mean, a true athlete is Brett. They hit Manhattan. Here's a guy who won numerous awards. And if you say he's lost it, what do you base?

Speaker B:

You have a perfect athlete right there in the WWF with Mr.

Speaker G:

Perfect.

Speaker E:

That's true.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker G:

I mean, you have all these people, baruch, for instance. Hi, honey.

Speaker E:

Hi.

Speaker G:

I mean, there are a lot of.

Speaker C:

People that just makes Brett look more or less ordinary.

Speaker G:

He was good in his time.

Speaker B:

There are a lot of people who came along better.

Speaker E:

I think he's beginning his time, as you call it. I think if Bret Hart comes back, it'll be a real big improvement in the World Wrestling Federation ranks. And I know he's got what it takes to win the bell sack.

Speaker D:

How you can say you haven't seen Bret Hart take on any of those superstars. If Brett comes back and does poorly, then maybe you can say that. But we're going to find out this week.

Speaker E:

Totally facts here. It's from little Ricky in Pennsylvania. Wants to ask Utah if you think that Brett The Hitman Hart would reconcile with his brother Owen Hart when he came back. What do you think?

Speaker D:

I don't think there's any way that's going to happen.

Speaker E:

I don't know about that.

Speaker D:

Brett's hurt.

Speaker E:

Brett's hurt. And if Owen decides to be a little bit friendly, I think it's another ploy to get him in the back one more time.

Speaker D:

I'll tell you the truth. I wouldn't be shocked if Brett retired. I don't like to say that, but seeing him with his family and watching how he was with his kids, it would not be.

Speaker E:

He is an accomplished actor. He's got a great film and TV career. I mean, Hulk Hogan. Yeah, like the last color said. He also did that too, but his movie's flopped. I'm sorry. I've seen a lonesome dove, and they're fabulous. And Brett is a great actor and he's a great wrestler. And I want to see him back.

Speaker D:

Mark from New York, you are on livewire.

Speaker B:

Hi, Todd. Hi, Tony.

Speaker C:

How are you doing?

Speaker E:

Hi.

Speaker B:

I would just like to say that I think the last caller must be out of his mind because if Brett Hitman decides to come back, which I think he will, I think that he's going to kick Stone Cold's ass and everyone else that comes up against him.

Speaker D:

Oh, you're like a stone cold Steve Austin Jr. Here on the phone. Can we clean it up, please? Can we say but can we say cooley? Do we have to say that word.

Speaker A:

Over and over and over?

Speaker E:

We got rid of stone cold already. We don't want that anymore.

Speaker A:

Unbelievable.

Speaker D:

We're going to find out exactly what the Hitman's plans are.

Speaker E:

Maybe I'll find out.

Speaker D:

The excellence of execution. Brett The Hitman Hart will make his plans known for the entire world. Live this week's on Raw.

Speaker C:

All right, so first up we have Amy Lee Ray. And she's out in New Jersey. And she starts off by saying that she is not a Hitman fan. And she writes that Stone Cold Steve Austin will have a field day with the excellence of execution. Brett the hitman heart. So now Sonny wants to know what the WWF fans think about what Amy Lee has to say. And then Todd, he turns our attention to Roger from Indiana. And he's on the phone. He's on the line here. So Todd asks Roger for his opinion on Brett. The hitman heart returning. Roger, he says he doesn't know, but he thinks Brett might want to consider staying in retirement. Roger thinks that there are guys currently in WWF that are bigger and better. And Brett Hart's. Time has passed.

Speaker B:

So guys, these guys have strong opinion.

Speaker C:

That's a hot take from Roger from Indiana. Your notes say India. When I went to a company this I was like, this guy's from India. He's from Indiana.

Speaker B:

It's funny. I was just like looking at the notes and in my mind it still said Indiana.

Speaker C:

I was like, damn, I knew it.

Speaker B:

Was Indiana, not India, but fucking says India.

Speaker C:

So side note here. They're playing clips from Brett Hart's role in Lonesome Dove. This like wicked shitty TV series. But did you ever watch it?

Speaker B:

I did. I didn't either. But I just remember the WWF magazine cover was once on a set of Lonesome Dove.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I remember that one. So they're playing clips from the show in the background as this is going on. And they're like popping up on the screen and shit. So I just wanted to mention that because it's hilarious. So roger gives Brett hot props but says Brett doesn't stand a chance against some of these new guys. Now Todd Pettingill makes a ludicrous statement and says Brett The Hitman Hart might be the man who put wrestling on the map. What a fucking shit take. Like nobody's believing this. So this is why this was live. This call had to be live. Because Roger then asked Todd to back up with that statement. He's like, back up, back up with that statement.

Speaker B:

Todd, was Roger in charge of the show now?

Speaker C:

Yeah, I like Roger better than Todd.

Speaker B:

I'll tell you that.

Speaker C:

So Roger tells Todd he reminds him not to forget about Hulk Hogan. And that's what makes me think this was really live. Because I don't think they would have greenlit his name to be mentioned on a WWF show. So he says not to forget about Hulk Hogan. Todd then basically says that, well, Hogan's lost his edge. So naturally he's going to shit on the WCW guy. And Sonny says we should be talking about a true athlete. And she's meaning, like Brett the hitman heart. And Todd again is trying to put Brett the hitman heart over. He calls to Brett Hart winning numerous awards, whatever the fuck those awards are.

Speaker G:

Beats me.

Speaker B:

Slamming awards, slammy awards.

Speaker C:

Sonny calls Brett an accomplished actor, which actually has nothing to do with the argument. Which also is just not fucking true.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's not even true. Actor hasn't done anything really.

Speaker C:

So Todd wants to know what Rogers lost. It statement is based off of like, why did you think Brett Hart's lost it? So Roger then he points out because to Sonny and Todd's point about Brett Hart being a brighter athlete and all this stuff. Roger points out, well, the WWF has the perfect athlete and missed the perfect. And Todd and Sonny, they kind of throw it off. They agree. And then Roger continues on naming another great athlete in Faruk. He's like and there are other people on the roster who make Breath The Hitman Heart look ordinary and breathtah. This guy Roger sounds like a breast and fan in like 2023. He's like a time traveler. So you ever see like the video of like Jay Z the picture back.

Speaker B:

In the 18 hundreds or something?

Speaker C:

This is Roger. Roger is like the fucking guy that's always bitching on Twitter about wrestling.

Speaker B:

They existed back then apparently.

Speaker C:

Todd? No, it's Roger. Sod makes it. Sonny then mentions that when Brett Hart comes back, it'll be a boost for WWF. And she believes he'll have what it takes to win the belt back. And I agree. It's a good take by Sonny. And then Todd makes a decent point mentioning to Roger that Brett Hart will actually have the chance to prove himself against these lists of superstars whom Roger thinks is better than Brett The Hitman Hart. And if he loses, well, then those statements might hold true. So they kind of quickly change gears as Sonny gets a fax from Little Ricky from Pennsylvania, which is probably a fake fucking facts, little Ricky. Get off the topic. So Ricky asks Todd if he thinks Brett will reconcile with Owen Hart when he comes back. Todd doesn't think there's a chance that'll happen, and Sonny agrees. Todd mentions that he wouldn't be shocked if Brett Hart actually retires. Sonny again puts over Brett's shitty acting credentials when she says, unlike Hulk Hogan, Brett hasn't flopped at the box office.

Speaker B:

Because he hasn't been at the box office.

Speaker C:

So that's Vincent hurt ear like, bring Hogan up again.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I would shit on him.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I just thought of a good one.

Speaker B:

Say this one probably right.

Speaker C:

So from there, we transition over to Mark. And he's in New York. And Mark takes a shot at the last caller, who's Roger? He says that he's out of his mind. And Mark says that when Brett Hart decides to come back, he'll kick stole Cold's ass and everyone else that comes against him. Now Todd calls because now Todd and Sonny anytime when Austin was using ass and swearing, quote, unquote, they always get uncomfortable. So Todd calls Mark stone cold Steve Austin Jr. For using the word ass. Todd and Sonny then close out the segment and remind us that Brett Hart will make his intentions known on the next episode of Monday Night Raw. That wraps that up.

Speaker B:

All right. So from there now they move on to video package retrospective of Mr. Perfect. It's about three minute highlight reel of Mr. Perfect who's just recently come back. And they're just showing like, highlights from his career. And they're showing his old vignettes where he throws a football up in the air and runs down the field and catches it himself instead of him playing pool or doing a dive in a pool. Pool twice, there playing pool and diving in pool. So it's just a nice little video package of Mr. Perfect. And then from there, they return. And this last portion of the show is going to be all about hyping up the in your house. Buried Alive pay per view, first time ever Buried Alive match, undertaker versus mankind.

Speaker C:

It's a big deal.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And I thought for this 316 day special, let's make this special. You don't want to hear JV and I talk about the undertaker in mankind for the rest of this portion of the show here. Let's bring in the experts for this. So we got a special little treat for you. We got talking. Taker Alex Dorio and Travis White. They're going to be taking over the episode during this portion here. And they're going to cover the phone calls, the very live match, like a mini episode of Talking Taker right here on the Bottom Line wrestling cast. So very excited for that. Thank you, Alex and Travis, for coming on and doing that for us. I asked. They're not here. Obviously. They're not here. They sent in their audio for us and we're going to play it here. I'm so happy that they took the time to do that. Just like that. I asked and within 20 minutes heard back like, all right, yeah, we'll do that. And they banged out the audio and got it over. So thank you for that and it's great audio. I took a listen already and they do a great job taking over this livewire episode review. So let's send it their way. Take a listen to Talking Taker here on the Bottom Line wrestling cast.

Speaker C:

All right.

Speaker F:

Thanks, Mike and JV. Thanks for inviting us to be a part of your 316 day special. This is Alex Dorio and Travis White of talking. Taker. I'm the Todd Pin Gale and he is the Sonny of our podcasting crew here. Would you agree with that?

Speaker D:

You're the good looking.

Speaker F:

You'Re in red spandex right there whose life is going.

Speaker G:

To fall apart and go to jail.

Speaker F:

I didn't mean it that way.

Speaker G:

I'm just kidding.

Speaker F:

We're live. We're talking livewire here, man. I tell you what, dude, I was probably watching this episode of Livewire back in 96. I was a huge fan of everything WWF back then and honestly, dude, if you were to talk to me, ten year old me in 1996, I'd tell you, I wanted to grow up to be Todd Pittingale and I wanted to grow up to be with Sonny. So this was perfect for me.

Speaker G:

There you go.

Speaker F:

Man's got a dream, man's got a dream, dude. I love Todd Pitt and I knew I wasn't going to be a wrestler, but I could probably pull off his job and, dude, I thought he was the king of comedy back in 1996. He could do no wrong in my book. What about you? You probably weren't watching this back then. You weren't quite as into things at this time, right?

Speaker G:

No, I was not yet. I was familiar with Nwo at this point, kind of what was going on ish there and Hogan was a bad guy now, but I hadn't quite sunk into reigniting my passion for wrestling like I had when I was five or six year old. So, yeah, this was the infancy of me coming back into it. So I really wasn't in it yet. But I've seen the magazines at Revco or at CVS or whatever, the pharmacy store, but this was something that I do remember the COVID of magazine and just seeing the burial live. So, yeah, this is cool. It's fun to revisit because we haven't talked about this match in I mean, this is early on in our tenure here.

Speaker F:

Early on, yeah, maybe episode 25, 26, something around there when we first covered the Buried Alive match. And that's what the end of this episode of Livewire is. It's the hard sell for the Buried Alive pay per view that's coming out 24 hours from now. The next day at the Market Square Arena as they repeatedly inform us throughout this segment. And yeah, we're going to recap the end of the show here. Replace Mike and JV, since this is all talking take.

Speaker G:

If I hear Market Square, I can't not think of Tom Petty. So it's pigeons down to the Market Square standing in her underwear. So anyway, last dance of Mary Jane.

Speaker F:

That's probably what they named it after.

Speaker B:

Probably.

Speaker G:

Anyway, well, it's a good thing that we're able to go back in time and relive this because this was a one time only match you'll never, ever, ever see again.

Speaker F:

False advertising, man. I'm fine with them calling it a one time only match. You never know if you're going to ever have another bear to live match again. But the fact that they kept saying, if you don't order this tomorrow night, you will never see it again, as if we're not familiar with the concept of colosseum home videos.

Speaker G:

As if they're going to burn the.

Speaker C:

Film.

Speaker G:

Or sink it to the bottom of the ocean or something. It's like, okay, anyway, you got to.

Speaker F:

Sell the pay per view. That's what we see is some very long promos really selling the pay per view. These originally Aired on Monday Night Raw throughout the weeks, going into Buried Alive And I remember them well, Travis, because this was really like a turning point for us in the podcast, where we kind of forced, kind of backed into a corner into covering Monday Night Raw. Every single week, we used to just cover the pay per view matches, kind of discuss the build up. But these promos, they'll go back and forth in the graveyard between Mankind and Paul Bear and The Undertaker. Every single week, a different promo between these guys. And we were like, man, we got to discuss these, man, because they're so cool, so unique. And it was really the first time we saw really an extended epic build up to a big pay per view match between The Undertaker. And we kind of see that starting off here with Mankind and Paul Bearer in a very rainy graveyard.

Speaker G:

Yeah, they're by the grave. And Mankind mcfaule is so good, man. He's just all in character. And I'd love to see bloopers from this because I'm sure they're great, but.

Speaker F:

I think they show some stuff. Maybe it's the Paul Bear documentary or some of the Undertaker stuff. They have a few little clips of them. I think it's from these matches that they have some blooper reel from.

Speaker G:

Yeah, but he's sitting on the edge of his little legs are swinging in the grave. Basically, Paul Bear standing there and he looks more like the Penguin than ever because he's got an umbrella. I'm just like, Dude, yeah, I got to bring my Batman stuff into it. But yeah, he's got an umbrella and standing out in the rain. And Mankind's just basically going off on some crazy soliloquy about how he's going to put The Undertaker down. And it's great stuff, and I can't encourage you enough to watch it.

Speaker F:

You know what jumped out to me? Mankind's bald spots. Front of his head, man. Like the commitment. That guy had to shave these little patches out of his hair. Dude, it looks great on TV, but man, I just can't imagine him for the other every single other hour of the week.

Speaker G:

What are you doing? Yeah, he's got to walk around life like that. It's insane. Dude, the commitment to the character is awesome.

Speaker F:

That's why he's a hall of famer.

Speaker G:

Yeah.

Speaker F:

So mankind has his promo. It's great. It's hilarious to see Paul Barrow with the umbrella out there. The umbrella didn't stick around like the Urn did, of course. But then Takers promo, man, dude, watching it back. This is probably one of The Undertaker's best promos, especially of this era. Dude, he goes off on mankind. It was really long. It's probably like five minutes long. This rant that he goes on, we won't recap it word for word, but I love that Taker tells mankind that he's going to get these purple fists.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker G:

Eat that. Braun strowman. Well, one thing I do love is this quote. I wrote it down here. He says, My whole existence is death, darkness, and the destruction of you, mankind.

Speaker B:

Bury the lie.

Speaker C:

Who could have thought that it would come to this?

Speaker A:

Two men so similar, yet worlds apart.

Speaker C:

My whole existence is death, darkness, and.

Speaker A:

The destruction of you, mankind.

Speaker G:

He's focused. He kind of talks about how this has changed. He says that most of my opponents are already defeated when they enter the ring with me because, for lack of better term, mind freaked them with my mind games, you know? But he's saying they're already defeated when they get in there. They're weak in state. He's like, but not you. It didn't work on you. And then he says that I will be the judge, jury, and executioner. Which I just had to laugh knowing.

Speaker F:

That the real executioner is going to be coming.

Speaker G:

So if only Taker would have known. It's his awesome promo.

Speaker F:

Yeah. Kind of the gist of it is he says, at one point, I'm willing to destroy The Undertaker in order to destroy you, mankind. And that's going to be kind of pressure here because we know the Undertaker is going to end up being buried alive, and he is going to go away for a little while and be reborn. The Buried alive match is the last time we see him in that classic look with the gloves and the stirrups on his boots and that old school Mortician outfit. He's going to come back in the short lived leather daddy pirate outfit at Survivor.

Speaker G:

Milo.

Speaker B:

I love it, though.

Speaker G:

I'm here for that one.

Speaker F:

It will evolve into the look that we see him out throughout 97 and 98. But yeah, the old. School undertaker is going to be destroyed here in order to defeat mankind. This is the feud. The announcers would always have the hyperbole like, oh, this is the greatest threat to the Undertaker we've ever seen. We've never seen the Undertaker beaten down quite the way he has here. They would say that for years. Mankind, it was actually one of the rare it was true.

Speaker B:

Oh yeah.

Speaker G:

And I just watched the Mankind Undertaker, an E biography not too long ago before we were recording this. They mentioned that in that too. That was the first time that he was actually seen born because mankind comes in hot and he beats him. It's just crazy. Mankind goes to the main event scene and then he's back with Taker. And yeah, he is going to defeat Taker at his own game here and Buried Alive, which is awesome. But yeah, this is great stuff. And I'll tell you what, man, before this promo, I wanted to mention this, that Sonny comes, she's talking about first of all, her and Todd are pumped for this match, but she's like, you know who I want to see in that grave?

Speaker A:

Paul Bear.

Speaker G:

And I'm just like, Why?

Speaker B:

She hated so much.

Speaker F:

Paul bear.

Speaker G:

Yeah, it's great. We're going to come back from that promo to some Gtv surveillance video surveillance.

Speaker F:

Video inside the arena, which made me question, what grave are Undertaker and Mankind digging? Because they're in a graveyard preparing these big graves. But that's not the grave for the Buried Alive match because that's going to be in the Market Square arena. So I don't know what grave that they're busy working on here.

Speaker G:

Digging up bones.

Speaker F:

Yeah, we see the construction of the grave in the arena, which is really cool. Todd and Sonny are talking, giving us the hard, hard sell for this pay per view. Explaining how to order a pay per view. In case you're mentally challenged here, they give every possible explanation how to order this pay per view. And they tell you the big reward here once you order the pay per view. If you're one of the first 2500 people to send in your cable bill to Stanford, Connecticut, you will get the free copy of the WWF full medal. The album on compact disc.

Speaker G:

Dude, I was so pumped for this promo. It was awesome. And then Pettingale says that it's already climbing the Billboard heat seekers chart, soon to surpass Mariah Carey. Dude, if that doesn't date this, I don't know what it's awesome.

Speaker F:

What Mariah Carey album is he talking?

Speaker G:

Oh, I don't know, 96. I don't know. Would that have been fantasy and stuff like that?

Speaker F:

Maybe.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker G:

Honey? No, honey was later. Probably 99, 2000. Okay, so yeah, I don't know, man.

Speaker F:

Could be fantasy. Yeah, crazy. That's hilarious though.

Speaker G:

I feel like it's on the tail end of fantasy, though. I don't know. Who knows?

Speaker F:

And they give you the numbers to call in and to email Livewire. I know it's the email address.

Speaker G:

Thank you. I was going to point it out too. Go ahead and tell us what it is.

Speaker F:

It's [email protected] li v like livemorgan. Livewire was not available.

Speaker G:

Was WWF Livewire already taken by somebody else?

Speaker B:

Why is it livewire?

Speaker G:

I was like, this is amazing. Or could you only have was it like you can only have so many initials? I don't think so.

Speaker B:

AOL back then.

Speaker G:

Yeah, I don't think so. But anyway, yeah, I'm glad you pointed out because I was going to bring it up.

Speaker F:

It might have been because that's ten characters. Maybe there was a limit on AOL back in 96.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker C:

Maybe so.

Speaker F:

Hilarious.

Speaker G:

That's awesome.

Speaker F:

So we do get a few callers. I never called into livewire. I was too young or too nervous, too scared to call in. But tell you what, Sean in Michigan is going to call in first and he is appalled that the WWF is having this match. Someone could get seriously injured and Todd explains to us why that they're going to allow this.

Speaker D:

Back to the phones we go. Let's talk to Sean in Michigan. You were on livewire.

Speaker B:

Hey, Todd, how are you doing?

Speaker D:

Good, man. What's happening?

Speaker A:

I just want to know how they.

Speaker B:

Could have this match between Undertaker and Mankind. I mean, someone could seriously get injured. And I think the WWF should award the winner of this match a chance at the title shot.

Speaker D:

Well, let me tell you. The reason we're going to have this matchup is because both these guys wanted it. It is a non sanctioned matchup here in the World Wrestling Federation. That means the WWF is only providing the time. They're not taking any responsibility at all for what's going to happen here.

Speaker G:

Yeah, he says the WWF is non sanctioning it that way. They're not held accountable for anything that happens. They are just simply providing the time to these two guys who provide the time. You guys do your thing.

Speaker F:

Cameras and the referee and the graveyard building, all that.

Speaker B:

We're going to give it to you on pay per view.

Speaker G:

Yeah, we're just providing the time. It's unsanctioned. It's not held accountable. But I love it. But Sean does have a good point. He says the winner of this match should be next in line for a WWF title shot. Which I was like, hey, sounds good to me.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker F:

If you're going to risk your life on the line for it.

Speaker G:

Exactly.

Speaker F:

I'm not sure if that's going to hold up in court, man. If someone dies in there, I don't.

Speaker B:

Know if Vince will be able to.

Speaker F:

We just gave him the time, pal.

Speaker G:

Exactly. Who knows, man? Well, the pay per view is sponsored by one of the greatest games on PlayStation, crash Bandicoot.

Speaker F:

Crash Band.

Speaker G:

I do love that.

Speaker F:

One of my favorites. And I wanted to point out that marker of the time period as well, this pay per view is sponsored by PlayStation, not PlayStation Five, which right, sponsored by PlayStation. Period number one, the original. That made me feel real old.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker G:

Because yeah, PlayStation came out in, I think, 94 or five. So, yeah, it was still fresh.

Speaker F:

Still fresh.

Speaker G:

Awesome.

Speaker F:

Loved me. The original PlayStation.

Speaker G:

Well, yeah.

Speaker F:

Todd's showing off his Buried Alive merch shirt. Pay per view shirt. He's real proud of it. Under the blazer, looking good. Fashionable sonny is do you think he.

Speaker G:

Got that from Tommy Dreamer?

Speaker F:

Probably merchandise. He's the innovator of the merch stand shirt.

Speaker G:

Todd says, we're back from commercial. We're going to take your phone calls, your emails and your faxes. If someone faxes a question on Live Wire and they get it read, that's the ultimate goal right there.

Speaker F:

Can you imagine sitting there Saturday morning, drinking your coffee, watching Live Wire? Like, we type up a little fax to Todd Pittengill right now.

Speaker B:

Sonny's waiter is.

Speaker G:

Like, Britain out, or it kicks them offline because they're on AOL. We get another call here from Nick from Boston.

Speaker F:

Nick from Boston. He can't believe someone's going to get buried alive. Dude, it's a scary sight. He doesn't think it'll be pretty. He's got nothing to say. Todd cuts him off pretty quickly, like.

Speaker B:

All right, thanks, Dick.

Speaker F:

Not much to add here.

Speaker G:

No. Then Dave, I forgot, there's one more call. Dave in Connecticut, so he's got three points he wants to make. It's going to be gruesome. Then he stops to hit on Sunny.

Speaker F:

Shot his shot with Sonny.

Speaker E:

Hi, dad. How are you doing?

Speaker G:

I'm doing well. I've watched you in your whole entire career.

Speaker B:

You've been pretty busy.

Speaker E:

Yeah, I have been having.

Speaker D:

Talking about bury a lot. Come on, we're almost out of time.

Speaker G:

I know, I know.

Speaker B:

Come on, Dave.

Speaker G:

Man. Got to give it up for Dave from Connecticut.

Speaker F:

No, they started swearing and Todd was like, yeah, come on, man, we got a pay per view to sell.

Speaker G:

Yeah. So, yeah, he gets us back on track. And Dave wants to know if the underdogger has been suggested to wear a mouthpiece in this, perhaps to protect him when the dirt is falling in his mouth. And Sonny thinks it's a great idea. I think she's just placating to him because he hit on her.

Speaker F:

It could be, but I dig it, man. I like that suggestion. I don't know if we ever talked about that. Something to block the mandible claw. Some sort of mouthpiece, mouth device, some sort of retainer or something in there. I don't know if it would work, but it's an interesting suggestion. I'm surprised Vincent Man never came up with that.

Speaker G:

Yeah, who knows? After that, we're going to push the Buried Alive match real hard again. If you don't order this tomorrow, you'll never see this match ever again. It will apparently never be released on home video. There is no WWE network, there's no Peacock, no YouTube, nothing. We're going to burn it after we film it.

Speaker F:

That's right. Like you said, the tapes will be burned. That's the end of the show. That's kind of we're going to wrap up. That's how we're going to push the pay per view on you. And they're doing everything they can to make you believe you're going to see a crime. A murder is taking place.

Speaker G:

Sony says she might leave the locker room and go ringside just to watch it.

Speaker F:

Yeah, she might walk away from Sean Michael's locker room to head out ringside.

Speaker G:

For a second sunny day.

Speaker F:

But yeah, dude, this was cool. This was a cool throwback to this era. I guess they kind of do the same thing now. This is sort of the prototype for the bump show that they have on Peacock. Sort of the early idea of it, this interactive television show. They've always wanted to have something like this. For years they've tried different aspects of it. But this was a cool look back at this time period and a throwback to this match. I mean, I didn't order the pay per view, but I definitely was sitting there thinking, okay, this is extreme. We've gone past the casket match. Someone's going to be buried alive. We've crossed the border here. We entered into uncharted territory here. So they're doing a good job of selling it.

Speaker G:

Yeah, they are. It is funny. It's kind of ahead of its time as far as the livewire concept because you see this stuff all the time nowadays. 1012 years ago when Talt was around and Twitter was real big, they would just annihilate the screen with your Twitter and like Taboo Tuesday when stuff was 2005 ish they've always tried to be on cutting edge of getting social and fan involvement stuff. So I appreciate this with Livewire. WC did the same type of stuff. It's very cool and it's just very neat. And like I said, nowadays every show, everything on ESPN has this kind of stuff. The little ticker at the bottom of people's comments and stuff. UFC pay per views have celebrities commenting on it. It's really neat to see how far we've come. But yet at the same time, WWF has kind of always been trying stuff like this. So kudos to them.

Speaker F:

Didn't always work.

Speaker G:

No, absolutely not.

Speaker F:

But they did try. As wrestling fans, we can say not all wrestling fans are going to make the greatest interactive guests on a good heavens no.

Speaker B:

Or in person.

Speaker G:

We tried to Sweden. Anyway, go ahead.

Speaker F:

Kudos to the guy who tried to shoot his shot with Sonny. He's the hero for all of us. I hope he tried to stay on the line and get the digits afterwards. But thanks again to Mike and JV for inviting us on. We're happy and excited to be part of your 316 day special here. And of course, encourage all you listeners out there, all you bottom line cast listeners to check out Talking Taker. We got a full episode devoted to this Buried Alive match. And plus, we're covering the complete history of The Undertaker and his career. We continue to cover it every month on the Talking Taker podcast. Look for new episodes on the first day of every month out there. And follow us at talkingtaker. Not at WWF livewire, but at Talkingtaker. Spelled out correctly, no letters missing in that.

Speaker G:

Not tlkngtkr the whole thing.

Speaker F:

Thanks again, guys.

Speaker G:

Yeah, absolutely. Hey, you guys, thanks for having us. This is the 26th 316 Day, I guess because I was born in 96, so the first 316 would have been 97.

Speaker B:

So yeah.

Speaker G:

Happy 26th anniversary of 316 Day. Thanks for having us. And as always from us here at Talking Taker. Take her easy.

Speaker B:

All right. That was great. Thanks again talking. Taker Alex and Travis, man. That was awesome. Good stuff there. It was great to hear what they had to say, kind of some of the similar things that we were talking about when we talk about Livewire and the memories we have of that time. So that was fun. I hope you guys liked it, enjoyed it. Of course, check out Talking Taker on their shows. They come out every month now. I'm pretty sure Alex mentioned that at the end there. So thanks again, Alex and Travis, for being part of our 316 Day special episode, and we look forward to further collaborations down the road, whether on your show or you guys being back with us here on The Bottom Line Wrestling cast. So thank you for that. And that wraps up Livewire for October 19, 1996. Nice little change of pace here. Fun to review some kind of random stuff, something that we wouldn't do back originally, but now that we've wrapped the show up, here it is. We went back in time to 96 and covered something we never even mentioned back on episode four when we were in this time period of October 96 and just glossed over it. The reason why some of the things weren't mentioned in the early episodes is because we didn't have access to everything early on. So a lot of stuff we kind of covered quick and didn't go into.

Speaker C:

The detail that we on our lap here.

Speaker B:

Yeah, eventually we would have, like, greater detailed reviews of matches and whatnot, and we weren't doing that originally. So it was nice to go back here and kind of fill in the blank. Yeah. So that was it. That was Live wire for October 19, 1996. That was fun. We're going to take a quick little quick little break. Be back with the Bottom line wrap up.

Speaker A:

The World Wrestling Federation for over 50 years, the revolutionary force in sports entertainment. I'm serving notice to every one of the WWF superstars. I don't give a damn what they are. They're all on the list. And that's StoneCo's list. And I'm fixing to start running through all of them. And that's the bottom line. Because Stoneco said so, I got a.

Speaker B:

Door in for some sweet, cheating music.

Speaker A:

Have a nice day.

Speaker B:

Nothing to be embarrassed about.

Speaker D:

No fluffy white clouds outside the studios in Stanford, Connecticut this morning. As a matter of fact, it is pouring rain up and down the eastern seaboard of the United States Saturday morning. Welcome to livewire.

Speaker B:

All right, we're back now for The Bottom Line Wrap Up, and we'll be back in two weeks for episode nine of our special stunning Steve Austin series. We'll be covering March of 1992, so look forward to that in two weeks. Also, you just heard them here on Bottom Line Wrestling cast Talking Taker, and they drop their new episodes first of every month. Their latest episode is The Life and Times of Paul Bear for their March episode, so check them out. Follow them on Twitter at talkingtaker. Also check out Book in the Territory, the Unprofessional Wrestling Podcast with Mike Mills, Hard Body Hopper and Doc Turner. They release their episodes every Thursday night and they are covering World Championship Wrestling. And they started back in 85 covering the weekly Saturday night show, and now they're up to October 12 of 1991. Again, check them out. It's booking the territory. Also check out our Vantage Point, the Retro Wrestling podcast, which is now also in a similar situation as Booking the Territory, where they're just covering weekly shows and they're doing WWF Championship Wrestling from 1985. They started that process of covering World WWF Championship Wrestling back in 82. Now they're up to August 10, 1985. Check them out. Our vantage point. Follow them on Twitter at ovpodcast. Also, check out their other shows. That's with Joe Morata, Michael Quinn. They also do a retro pop culture show called Acid Washed Memories. New episodes come out every Monday, and they're up to episode ten already now. And their most recent episode that dropped this week is all about the Mall, the shopping mall. So that's a fun episode as well. And then also, Jamie and I do the Extreme Ecw Livecast, which is available exclusively on The Book of the Territory patreon feed at the $5 tier. The latest episode just came out. It's episode 68. CW Hardcore TV is what we cover. And on this episode, we had our special guest, Rick Bibi join us, our head of research over there, the Extremely Stubborn Livecast. We covered episodes 149 through 152, so four weeks worth we cover in this episode, February 27 through March 19, 1996. So check out that one. That's a fun one. And then also we have a free feed of extremely Stubby Livecast episodes, which are roughly a year behind. So our most recent available episode there, which is available every two weeks on Thursday nights, it's episode 49, Ecw Hardcore TV 103 and 104 from April 11 and 18th of 1995. So just a little less than a year behind the new feed the Patreon feed. Check it out. You can follow us on Twitter as well for that at Extreme cast. So, guys, thanks for listening. Thanks for being part of this 316 day celebration. Again, special thanks to Talking Takers, Alex and Travis for being part of it and doing that hard work to provide us that great audio.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that was a hell of an assist.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Little bonus action from talking taker. It was great because it felt like I was listening to an episode of Talking Taker. Great. So we got our own little piece of Talking Takea within our show now, so thanks, guys, for listening. Remember, pop that top 316 day, but be careful. It is Thursday. Pop the top at home. Don't go anywhere after that.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Chill. Kick back and watch an Austin match. Listen to this podcast. Maybe check out the Vegas savio Vegas saga. Go back. Yeah. All right, guys. Again, like I said, we'll be back next time with next episode of Stunning Steve covering March of 92. Also, please, if you have the time, give us a five star review on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcast. That said, JV. Any final words? All right, guys, we'll see you next time. So long.

Speaker A:

And that's the bottom line. As far as I'm concerned, this over with, so get the hell out of here.

3:16 Day Special - WWF Livewire: October 19, 1996

Happy 3:16 Day!! 

On this 5th Annual 3:16 Day episode, we will be reviewing the October 19, 1996 episode of WWF Livewire!

Stone Cold Steve Austin is going to be in the studio with Todd Pettengill & Sunny, and he is not in a great mood! We will also have a special surprise hosts taking over the podcast during the final portion of the review! Pop a Top and let’s celebrate! Oh Hell Yeah!

  • Stone Cold’s Jan’96 - Oct ‘96 - Brief Recap
  • WWF Livewire - Brief History
  • Review - WWF Livewire - S1 E5 -  10/19/96
  • Next time - Stunning Steve - E9: March 1992

Talking Taker with Alex & Travis: You can now dig deep back into their archives of  episodes and explore the entire run of the Deadman. Give them a follow on Twitter @TalkingTaker and follow their YouTube page! 

This month, March - The Life & Times of Paul Bearer Booking the Territory: The Unprofessional Wrestling Podcast - Mike Mills, along with his hilarious & informative team of Doc Turner & Hardbody Harper, break down episodes of WCW World Championship Wrestling from Saturday Night from 85-91. This week is WCW  - October 12, 1991 Extreme ECW Live Cast: Join Mike P & JV on the Booking the Territory Patreon Page at Patreon.com/BookingTheTerritory at the $5 Tier. Available on the BTT Patreon episode, Ep 68 - HCTV 149-152: Feb 27 - March 19, 1996

Available on the free feed- ECW HCTV 103 & 104: April 11 & 18, 1995 Our Vantage Point: Retro Wrestling Podcast with Joe Marotta & Michael Quinn, this week is 1985 WWF Canon - Championship Wrestling -  August 10, 1985

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